Laura sat on her dream for years.

She had already moved abroad, left her marriage, rewritten her book, built a whole new life in a new country… and yet the next thing she actually wanted to build — a business supporting women after divorce — stayed in a drawer.

In this conversation, you’ll hear exactly how she went from:

• paralyzed by fear of judgment

• hiding the work she’d been doing for years

• waiting to feel “ready”

• thinking she “should’ve figured it out by now”

to owning her CEO energy, talking publicly about her work, pitching her idea in real life, and getting her first clients.

We break down the exact moment things clicked, the messy middle, and the main character energy skills that helped her finally do the thing.

If you’ve been circling a dream for months, years, or a decade… this episode is going to open something up for you.

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Show transcript:

Lily @ Date Brazen (00:00)

So today we have Laura, who is an amazing human who stepped the fuck into her main character energy and fucked some shit up in her life in such a beautiful way. And I can’t wait for you to listen to her story and be inspired by it. I know you’re going to leave this episode feeling like what you want is more possible than not. Like, that’s my hope for you. That’s my intention. Because Laura is somebody who came into Main Character Mastermind. We had our call about Main Character Life Mastermind, previously called Main Character Energy Mastermind, and she was like, I don’t know if I really need this. I already have moved abroad. I’ve already, you know, started my manuscript, I want to write a book. I’ve already done these big main character—I’ve already gotten a divorce, right? Like, I already have started dating. Why would I need extra support to step into my main character energy?

And I could tell that beneath the surface there was something else brewing, right? And I learned that she had had this business idea, this beautiful badass business idea that she had been ideating on for a really long time. I knew that the practice of main character energy—of giving yourself permission to want what you want, of learning the skill of self-trust and then taking massive, messy, courageous action—that skill of main character energy, that skill set, would allow her to not only launch her business but do so successfully no matter what. And so we talked about how she could integrate main character energy into every facet of her decision-making process for her business and starting it and how to launch it and how to release fear of other people’s judgment.

Like, if you are somebody who has been sitting on an idea for years, months, a decade… if you are somebody who has had a dream on your heart to put out into the world… if you’re somebody who has been longing for a bigger stage in your life… then you are going to be so inspired by Laura’s story.

And I want you to know that what you want is possible and that getting more of what you want in this life—right? Launching that business you’ve been dreaming of, building a core group of friends that reciprocate, taking the next leap in your career at your job and going after that promotion, like whatever the fuck is on your heart to do… dating in a way that feels like totally main character energy, shooting your shot 100% of the time, flirting every single day, asking humans out with abandon, blessing and releasing people with abandon, right? That level of main character energy is a skill set. It’s not a static state of being.

And so with this bonus episode with Laura, I really want you to see how we took her desire, right, for a bigger stage in her life, for bigger opportunities, for launching this business successfully. I want you to see how we broke it down into very manageable next steps and how it was all fueled by her main character energy, right? I want you to see how she didn’t need someone else’s 15-step plan. She just needed to learn the skill of main character energy and let that drive her decision-making and her epic next steps.

So listen to this episode, and you gotta know that this episode is sponsored by my mastermind that I only have open once a year. It’s called Main Character Life. It’s a six-month proven mastermind. In these six months, you are going to be in a life-changing coven of cheerleaders in this container where you’re gonna complete a main character project by releasing people-pleasing, building rock-solid self-trust, and taking risks that pay off big time.

Some epic main character projects that other clients have completed are building a core group of friends that reciprocate, writing a book, confidently shooting your shot every day in your love life, starting a band and writing music, figuring out how to move across the world, starting a business, quitting a soul-sucking job, getting a promotion, getting a sabbatical that you didn’t think was possible. All of our members claim what they want, they learn the three skills of main character energy, and they embody them daily.

The skill of permission—giving themselves permission to want what they want. The skill of self-trust—trusting themselves deeply that no matter what happens, they’ve got their own back. It will work out because of self-trust. And three, massive messy action. You’re gonna be asked to take massive messy action daily inside this container. Your life is going to be changed by how hard you are asked to show up for what you want in this container of people who have your back. And so the doors are open right now. Applications are open for the mastermind and you can find all the details you need to know. You can find the link to apply in the description of this episode.

My mission is to help you take center stage in your own fucking life, and I will help you do that by helping you learn the skill of main character energy, claiming a project that’s going to change your whole life, and then going after it with abandon.

By the end of Main Character Life, you will have completed a main character project and you will not believe how much you’ve changed in just six months. You will only say yes to dates, friendships, purchases, and commitments that are right for you, and you won’t feel guilty about it. You’re gonna be the main fucking character, and it means that life will feel more joyful and aligned and easeful than ever before. You will have a hundred times more play and pleasure and joy in your life, even amidst responsibilities and a busy schedule. You will know what you want, know that you’re worthy of it, ask for what you want, and you’ll be in the practice of receiving what you want all the time because of the skill set of main character energy and because of your main character project that we’re going to build together.

Applications are open right now. So let’s fucking go.

Let’s get into Laura’s episode.

I’m so excited that Laura is here with me today. Laura is a Main Character Energy Mastermind who created, I would say, incredible things for her life—like all of our members do during our time working together. And I can’t wait to share it with you. And I know you’re going to be feeling like what you want is even more possible. Hi, Laura.

Hey, Lily.

Hello. Okay, first question that I’m asking folks is: what feels important for folks to know about you?

I am an American-born and bred woman who is an international jet-setting divorcée. I’m currently based in Lausanne, Switzerland, but talking to you from the hills of Tuscany outside of Florence.

The most main character energy statement that has ever been said. I want to know what led to us working together—like, what led to our meeting for you?

Okay, so after following you on social media for about six months and seeing—I think around the time that I found you was when the first Main Character Energy retreat happened—and seeing those gorgeous photos and just seeing you celebrating that cohort. I was excited because, you know, I’m somebody who’s been married and then dating, and then now I’m in a relationship and have been for a couple of years now, which is crazy.

I loved the story around main character energy and the testimonials from the other people who were working there. A couple of years ago I quit my corporate job to try to figure out what I wanted next in life. It was around the pandemic; it was a time of transformation and reshaping for loads of people, right? So I’ve been in the process of writing a book about my divorce and about finding life after divorce. And so, you know, I’ve been reading memoirs, I need to write books about heartache and stuff that, you know, my parents probably don’t even know but at some point will read.

So, you know, living, chasing my childhood dream of becoming a writer. I also had this other idea for this business, but I didn’t quite know what. I was like mulling around with a lot of different stuff. When you started to announce that there was another Main Character Energy opening up, there was just something inside of me that was like driven to it and was like, I want this—but as maybe we’ll talk about in a minute, I was very hesitant about it because, you know, I needed it. Last summer I was on the brink of—and I still am on the brink of—doing a lot of really scary public, personal stuff. Like something… the piece that I needed or was missing was this layer of confidence, but like a better way to package it of like… you know, I’m about to go on the stage publicly and talk about some very vulnerable topics—between my own personal story and then launching a business that’s supporting women after their divorce. But yet on the inside, I was just not feeling… I don’t know. I just wasn’t leaning into this thing that I was building.

This feels like what I need to help me build the foundation within myself for when it’s time to get out there.

Do you remember what resistance came up for you? I remember it in our first call. Do you remember what we talked about?

I remember pieces of it, yeah.

What do you remember?

So I always have a hard time with like, do I really need this?

Yeah. Because it’s like—it’s one of those rational schoolgirl thoughts. It’s like, oh yeah, I need to build confidence, I need this kind of support, I can figure it out. But it was like… that was something—that’s the best way to say it.

Well, I think that I remember it as like: I should have figured this out already by myself by now.

Yes, exactly.

You were like: I have the business plan on paper. I’ve done everything that I possibly can for my book and my business. Like, why am I not putting it out into the world? Like, what’s wrong with me? Sort of vibes.

100%. Yes. Yes. That’s a very… those sentences are—well, I haven’t had them in a while.

Wonderful.

But yes, those were like living.

Yeah. Yeah. I should be talking more about it. I should have started the business.

I’m curious what led to you saying yes, because I remember that call. You were like, “I don’t know. I don’t know if I need—I don’t know if I need this.” And then suddenly you were in our doors. And I just want to know what happened for you there.

Oh, I spent—I took your advice, you know. Because the thing about our call—I was so nervous for that call. Like, I don’t know, I just was. I remember like you were like, “Oh, you want to take a breath?” Like you did some nice grounding thing. You gave me kind of notes right after our call like, “Here are some other things to look up,” which I adore. Because it was like, okay…

And then I spent some time journaling, honestly. I did mind mapping and just kind of tried to figure out like: what is the holdup here? And I kind of did a pros/cons list. And what it came down to—a bit of it—was thinking about investing in myself. When I was married, for example, I was in one of those… or I believed at the time that in order to be a good spouse, a good partner, you know, whatever dreams your partner has, you help make it happen. And so my ex-husband had a lot of dreams that he wanted to pursue and I came from a family that like really—my parents really supported me in everything that I wanted, from college, reverse, and stuff like that. And his parents just didn’t have the means so much. So I was like, “I can do that. I can help with that.” So he was the one who had the crystal-clear dreams in our relationship, which was early twenties. And so like… okay, help figure it out. And so what came out of the journaling was: I don’t have a husband here to negotiate with. I only have myself. And this is my money. This is my time. This is my dream. Like, I’m launching a—I’m writing a book that will see the light of day, you know? I am launching a business. I left a massively well-paid international corporate job.

My body was doing all these actions, you know? And then I’m also saying that I need more help. But then there’s… why am I like dragging my body—dead body almost, for lack of a better analogy—behind me, you know? It’s like: I filled out the form, I talked to you, and yet I’m still resisting. Come on.

So like that’s kind of what came out of the journaling I did. Like, yeah—why wouldn’t I put myself first? This is the beauty of being single with my own savings to do stuff like this.

Yeah. Yeah. Well, I think that that image of pulling a dead body behind you as you do your… here are the action steps… that’s why I really think that action without the mindset work and without community is a lot of times like cutting yourself off at the waist and expecting yourself to run a marathon. It’s like—you’re cutting off a huge part of your literally integrated body by not bringing along your heart and your head along with your legs. Because your legs can do amazing things. When you’re an integrated, aligned human being with these different parts, you can do even more.

What was it like to come into the program? And what do you remember first learning, feeling, seeing, experiencing? Like, take me there.

Oh my god—just again, overwhelmed. I was so nervous the first couple of sessions, and probably everybody else was, but naturally I only see my experience.

Gosh, first one—I mean, I remember our day-long retreat and the sound bath. That was incredible. So the day-long retreat was like a four- or six-hour Zoom call. And like, for my time zone, it was like 6 PM to almost midnight. I could be getting the actual hours wrong.

The first couple ones, when we were talking about limiting beliefs and self-compassion and things like that, I just remember feeling overwhelmed a bit. It took me a while to really connect with the group and connect in this space. And part of that is like, I really connect one-on-one with people. And I knew that like right after we had started, I had a big trip in the US where I was kind of in and out a little bit of the group.

I’ve done so much work over the years in therapy and other groups. I know what works for me, which is the one-on-one connection. So I think I started reaching out to a couple of the members and just having calls, and that helped. And that just helped to ease it out.

And then also—that must have been when I was learning self-compassion. Because then I was like, it’s okay. It’s the beginning of the course. I don’t need to make myself feel bad.

The real turning point that happened for me in the mastermind was really in month two, when I got back from that trip. That was when my cat was diagnosed with cancer—for those listening, because they don’t know me. My cat—to spoil the end—she did pass away during the program. But my cat was 15 years old, had chronic kidney disease, and then got cancer right on top of that. So the end of her life was pretty rapid, and that was all hitting during month two, month three of the mastermind.

This cat—I write about it on the newsletter, my blog—but she basically was this icon of my life. She existed back in my life when I left before I moved abroad, when I was still married, and then now into my life after the divorce. So she was kind of like this thread that was throughout, and it was very hard to… what does this mean? I feel like I could have those feelings, and the compassion I got from you, Lily, and also the group—that really helped me, I think, almost like… in a way, transition as I made my way through my main character journey.

Yeah, Minnie. Sweet Minnie cat. What was it like for you to be grieving during this experience of Main Character Energy Mastermind?

My goodness. So, in a weird way—and I knew it as I was going through it—but when I was going through the grief, it was amazing. It feels like a strange word to use in this situation. But to be able to feel my feelings and be there and be present, and also still show up for the mastermind calls… still be seen, still be witnessed…

That whole grief period, and kind of knowing—without being dramatic—like: my life’s going to be over. How can I live without my cat? Like, I know I’m going to live, you know? Stuff like that.

and caring for her literally. I took calls from the floor with her, you know, on blankets. But I feel like I was really connecting that to when I was going through my divorce and my marriage. I very much swept the grief under the carpet. It was just “have to move on.” I couldn’t be so present in my grief with it because I was going through this journey of belonging to myself as part of the mastermind. So it was like this bizarre heartbreaking healing situation all at the same time. Whoa.

Whoa, that’s intense. Yeah, you let me cry. Everyone let me cry. It was great. Yeah. Kept feeling the feelings. What was it like for you? A lot of the members were single and some were couples like yourself. What was it like to go through as a coupled person? Did you see any impact on your relationship during the program? And then I want to talk about the other impacts as well.

Yeah, so in the beginning I was like, because of your background as a brazen and dating coach and a lot of the color came from that, I was nervous to say that I was partnered. That was actually my question I had: “So I’m not single, can I be in this program?” But I do identify more as a single person who happens to have a boyfriend. I joke about that all the time. I love going together. I love that.

It was funny, I didn’t notice any difference. I didn’t talk about relationships too much, but that’s also me. My biggest value that I learned through my divorce and my marriage was that I am mortified of losing myself in a relationship. That is my biggest fear. I’m fiercely independent. I was in that co-dependent relationship that you happen to get into when you’re in your twenties and you don’t know any better.

So go to that one, it’s fine. And then my boyfriend, that’s also his biggest thing. He is fiercely independent as well. We both talked a lot about this in the beginning of our relationship—coming in but maintaining our own individuality. So that’s one piece. I joined the mastermind not for my relationship and my love life, though that did help me and did come up. Like, I’m in a relationship and it’s a great one and I’ve worked hard for it and we work hard for it together.

I want to enjoy and be happy that I’m in one. And I would say over the last couple of months, we definitely brought more… I love using Q2 for things more than we did before, because I’m a lot more secure in myself.

I love that, Laura. That’s such a fun bonus, isn’t it? It’s a bonus. It’s not the main event. You are the main event. Your belonging to yourself sounds like the main event. So we talked about in the beginning, you were like, “Okay, I have this business plan, I have this idea, I have this book that I’m writing and I’m not doing anything about it. I’m not taking action. I’m really struggling.” Where did you get to in this container and how did you get there? That’s a huge journey. Huge. Tell me about when you first started noticing shifts in how you were allowing yourself to take up space in your dreamy dreams.

Okay, I would say in the mastermind, picking the project, right away I thought my project was that I was going to take pleasure in the process of building a company. Then towards the end of December, I remember we had a coaching moment where I was really focused on wanting to talk about what I was doing on social media. For whatever reason, that was really important to me. I was not sharing the business I was building or about my book or much about my life. Around that time—whether it was in our coaching or after when I journaled this through—I realized: if I am comparing myself to this phantom CEO persona of somebody who’s building a business who acts like X, Y, and Z, and I can’t even figure out who I’m trying to emulate, then I should either stop emulating or just be that person.

That’s when the shift happened. End of December, beginning of January. My project shifted from taking pleasure in the process to: I am the CEO. I’m building a business. I’m getting a book out. I’m just gonna do it. Be here. Stop waiting to arrive at this moment. I’ve been working on all these projects for years—why not now? The most interesting thing around that time was in a week period, I must’ve posted on LinkedIn about my business, sent a newsletter about it—things started happening. I got an invite to speak at an internal event, more subscribers on my newsletter—magic was happening just by being present, acting how I had to act, and talking about the work I’d been doing. It was phenomenal.

It was like this paralyzed version of you who had all these plans on paper but wasn’t connecting with doing the thing. And to recap, I remember vividly you realizing: there’s not some out-there version of me. She’s here. I belong to her. She belongs to me. Let’s just try. And then it led to you being invited to all these things and getting what you wanted. What happened next?

Well, I got on an airplane and did a five-week trip around the world. Amazing. I spent a couple weeks in Japan. My boyfriend was joining me, some friends were joining, but I went a week and a half early. I consider Tokyo one of my homes. When my boyfriend and I were planning this trip—because we went to Japan last year—he said, “Do we have to go back to Tokyo?” And I said, “You don’t have to, but I do.” Because I need to go feel my heart and see my friends.

What was incredible during that week was that I had this shift: I am launching my business in June. I’m gonna work. I’m gonna prove to myself that I can work on the road, not just holiday. My retiree phase is over. While I was there, I was seeing friends and coworkers who I’d worked with years prior. They knew I’d left the company but didn’t know what I was working on. I spent that entire week reconnecting and pitching them on my business and getting real-life feedback.

People’s jaws were dropping on the floor, to be extra dramatic about it. It felt incredible. The whole week, out in a city I love, a city I call home, I felt so calm, like I knew who I was. I have a long history of being anxious and driven by nervous energy. The vibe that I’m getting these days is calm and centered. A lot of that feels like the internal work—my mind, my values, who I am, what I want to do, believing I can do it because I’m worth creating for my life. It was incredible.

That’s awesome, Laura. I’m so proud of you and excited for you. People might be listening and be like: wait, how did you get there? What lesson or what thing? Can you break down—how much of that was mastermind, how much was other work? Tell me about how you got from “I’m paralyzed, I know what I need to do but I’m not doing it” to “I feel calm and powerful.”

I would say the mastermind came as my senior thesis. I was explaining it to one of the other girls at the retreat. Main Character Energy was like my graduation or my final year in my self-development season of life.

How I got here: the year after I left Japan and returned to Switzerland, I was coming from a height in my career. I returned with the intention of settling, deciding if I liked living in Switzerland, what home would look like, making it intentional. I had had delayed work from getting divorced and moving internationally multiple times. I came back ready to make Switzerland home, learn French, do all this stuff. I walked into a job where the company was going through massive restructuring. It was awful. I found myself in a massive cycle of burnout and the deepest depression I’d ever been in. And I’ve been divorced—come on.

Around that time, my body and my heart made the decision that I wanted to quit my job. I managed to get out during a round of layoffs, but it took a long time for my brain to swallow. Then the pandemic hit. I had blown up my life multiple times. I was already on this journey of: okay, if I’m living in Switzerland away from my family and choosing to live here, I need to be intentional. I went into coaching programs, mindfulness programs—trying to find what spoke to me. There was a gap; I didn’t know what it was. I was writing my book, rewriting my book, trying to write a narrative memoir about heartbreak.

The beginning of the process was belonging to myself and my identity as a writer and author. Then I had this idea for a business, but I didn’t know what it was. I was reflecting on how I rebuilt my life after divorce, why I felt so strange and suffocated in my marriage when it was something I said yes to. I was raised in the 90s with Disney princesses; everything leads to marriage. I didn’t know therapy was a thing.

I was thinking about my own process—values work, therapy, CBT—just all the things I went through getting to know myself. Over the years I was looking for work, deciding again, going through motions I didn’t want to do. About a year before I joined Main Character Energy, I committed to starting my business seriously. I went through versions of it. Dispatch Divorcée—that’s my moniker and brand—but I didn’t quite know what it was. I didn’t land on it until halfway through the mastermind.

I was writing this book about rebuilding my life after divorce and I realized I was becoming the person friends called when they were going through breakups or divorce. There was something there. Not divorce coaching, but support, community, something for women who had already gone through the shitty, messy part and were like: okay, now what? I crystallized it around September. Dispatch Divorcée is a media company, experiences, a shop, a brand. At the heart of it is community. People who won’t tell you to stop crying because they know. It’s: cool, let’s go forward.

I needed the confidence to quiet the shoulds, the doubts, the “why haven’t I launched this yet,” the “why wasn’t the first draft perfect,” all that stuff keeping me safe. But it’s time. I admire people who are out there doing the messy stuff. I want to be that person too. I am that person too.

Yes. I love it. And I love that you’re like: the mastermind was my senior thesis. Sounds like the perfect end cap to all the work you had already been building, but putting the pieces together in practice and being held accountable with loving support. One of the best things about mastermind was every call starting with: what’s your brag? What’s your intention? What do you need? When I was grieving, I just wanted to be seen. I wanted someone to say: you’re doing a good job. And people would. I’d get DMs and texts: I see you. It was like—holy shit—ask for what you want and you get it.

That’s one of the wildest lessons: asking for what you want is the answer to getting it. Asking is simple and also complex. Asking centers yourself and revolutionizes the way you view whether you’re deserving. When you ask, you claim: I get to ask. And that is revolutionary, love that, claiming that I get to ask. 

That’s another thing with, like, in, you know, my three-year period when I was becoming marro—ny and had these ideas of what I wanted to do. Like, you know, I was kicking myself in the back about how I hadn’t talked more about what I was doing. And there were other people that were saying, like colleagues or something I’d have coffees with them, they’re like, document what you’re doing on LinkedIn. And I’m like, but I don’t want to because I don’t want to open myself up to feedback of others until I know that I am ready.

And that was the beauty of main character energy—and also with all the work that I did prior to it—but then it just crystallized. And so now I am asking and it is so cool to see who’s shown up. My God. I mean, I bet that’s really liberating and also like intense in its own way to ask and to see who’s showing up and to see how people show up. And I think that that’s so many people’s fear is like, what if people in my life don’t show up? Or like, what if they’re not the right people to show up? Or what if I don’t have the right friends? Or what if I don’t have friends who I feel comfortable with asking?

I think main character energy is like weaving your life together around what support you want support to feel and look like, and how you want to support yourself in stepping onto a bigger stage.

Absolutely. And that’s the biggest thing. I was kind of looking through some of my maps for Laura’s main character energy for afterwards. One of the biggest things is, you know, who gets access to me, or like, who—you phrased it very well a moment ago about asking for support and then kind of like who shows up in the support I want. So it’s like learning that—kind of those boundaries around myself as far as how I want support to look like.

That’s a thing that I learned, not as concretely through this, but definitely through my own coaching and the masterminds. Seeing the others getting coached is just like a way to kind of frame it, you know, as opposed to my past life. That’s like my pre–main character energy life was, you know, anybody who wants me can have me. Like, I want to be liked by everybody, but I’m afraid for people to judge me, so super frenetic and like frantic and like just like love me, love me, love me, which makes us brokenhearted girl abandoned.

Get it? You know, I get it. It totally makes sense. And I hear her. I don’t need it so much right now. You don’t respond to my texts and you’re a friend—that’s okay.

Yeah. Yes. It is about taking the power back of like your interpretation of people’s support or not support. It actually doesn’t mean anything about you.

So what would you say to somebody who is curious about the mastermind or on the fence about joining?

I would get on a call with Lily. I mean, anytime that you can get one-on-one time with Lily is golden. So if you’re on the fence for it—I would, I mean… I would journal, do whatever is kind of your personal recipe for how you work through things. Mine is journaling, kind of leaning on myself, which is, you know, one of my main character traits of like, usually I know what’s going on and I can work through it.

Just ask yourself, try to ask a series of like why’s. What’s holding me back from this? What am I afraid of? And then flip it. Imagine the best case scenarios. I don’t know, something like that. If you’re on the fence, I would just do that. Like, what happens if you do grow into your main character energy? What’s like the most crazy and insane thing that might happen?

Yeah. How would you recap what’s happened for you since stepping into your main character energy with this framework and community?

I’m not great anymore. I—a little emotion happening. This is exciting. I have been working my entire life—might be too dramatic, but we’ll go with it. You know, like I’ve always wanted to have my own business. I am a professional marketer and community builder, but I’ve been building communities for brands, not ones that matter. And it’s like, this is shit that I know how to do and now I get to do it.

And I’m not holding myself back anymore, which feels incredible. It feels incredible to step into myself, belong to me, and… just—I feel like part of me wants to say a different person, but another part of me knows that I’ve always been here. And it’s just so wonderful to be on this journey. And like, I, you know, was explaining to my parents and my boyfriend, things are shifting in a fail. Yes.

What my business looks like when I launch the website in June and then start to promote in the fall is going to be very different than how it’s going to look like in six months and a year from now. And that’s the exciting part. Because like, I’ve got my own back. I know what I need. Nobody is telling me what to do anymore. And I stopped asking—looking—for that phantom person to tell me, yes, you need to do this.

I love it, Laura. I’m excited for you. And I love, just to repeat what you said: part of me feels like a completely different person and part of me has the awareness that I’ve always been this person. I think that’s just so brilliant and beautiful. And I’m so grateful that you joined us in the mastermind and that you allowed yourself to be supported at this level to start getting more of what you already wanted.

Thank you. And thank you, Lily, for having this container. I remember when we spoke in the beginning, how you were like, get guaranteed results. I was like, how the fuck does that happen? And the biggest part was being on the journey with a group of other people who were also spending time wanting to invest in themselves and dream bigger and achieve bigger—not just dream, but like do it. And so we were all on a different journey and a different path, but doing it together.

And it was just really amazing to see even the uniqueness of everyone in the group and how, like you said, co-create—we all co-created that experience. That experience would not have been the same if it was a different group. It would not have been the same with different people, period. And like just everything about it was pretty magical and pretty wonderful too.

I’m so glad you feel that way. I mean, I know that from doing this program now a few times in this particular way—I’ve had masterminds before, they’ve always been so… I love the container, I love the group coaching. I love the smaller group coaching for the mastermind. The main character energy mastermind cohorts, though, always are the right group of people at the right time. Always.

Just because of, I think, my intention to co-create the right cohort with our application process and, you know, really being intentional about like, you come when you’re ready and there’s like… we’re not shaming anybody for any place that they’re at in the journey. We’re all starting together and moving forward together. It’s like so cool.

Absolutely. There was a lot of heavy lifting in the beginning for sure. And even like around the time when I got, like, my clicks—around month four—it felt like so many… like, it wasn’t just me that things were starting to align.

And when you say your clicks, does that mean like your ahas?

My ahas. The shit. Like—but literally it felt like, no, too much of a life-alarm moment, but—this shift moment from like comparing myself to whoever those, you know, that CEO model was to being like, no, no. Why am I waiting to become, to reach some, I don’t know, achievement level and become the CEO that I want to be? Why not do it now? Why not talk about what I’m doing now? That’s ⁓ the moment.

I love it, Laura. Well, thank you so much for coming and sharing your story with us. I’m cheering you on. Dispatch Divorce. Do you have a website people can check out or an Instagram?

I do. So go to dispatchdivorce.com. So go to that website when the episode is up. I’m sure there’s going to be some lovely, juicy, wonderful stuff waiting for you then. Roll out. And then if you want to keep tabs with me, Instagram—I am CheekyLameenkee.

So excited for you. Thank you, more please, to all that you have co-created and will continue to co-create. And y’all, I’m so glad that you tuned into this episode. Info on the mastermind is below in the description and in the show notes. And apply if you feel led and let’s fucking go.